I have a new monitor coming for my system and before I sell the old
one I would like to hook up both to my PC and run FS9. The video card,
ATI Radon 9800, supports 2 monitors. Any suggestions on how to do this
since I never used two before. I assume I just drag and drop to the
other monitor? What do most people put on the second monitor? I assume
the throtle panel, the radio stack, etc? How do you get the scenery to
span two monitors? Any info would be more that what I know now.
Thanks.

JC

Joe C wrote:
> I have a new monitor coming for my system and before I sell the old
> one I would like to hook up both to my PC and run FS9. The video card,
> ATI Radon 9800, supports 2 monitors. Any suggestions on how to do this
> since I never used two before. I assume I just drag and drop to the
> other monitor? What do most people put on the second monitor? I assume
> the throtle panel, the radio stack, etc? How do you get the scenery to
> span two monitors? Any info would be more that what I know now.
> Thanks.
>


Unless your new monitor is digital, you'll still need a digital/analog
converter for the cards digital output (1 digital, 1 analog).
Go to display properties, enable the second monitor at what ever parameters
you want, then in windows mode (not full screen, although there is a little
dance you can do to move things there as well) undock the windowed piece you
want to move, drag & drop. I usually plant the GPS there, then it depends
on the airplane is use whether I display the radio stack, throttles, etc..
there as well. Put an extra outside view and you're asking for a big fps
hit.......
It's also very handy for other uses, like two web sites open for comparison
shopping, etc...... Get used to it and you won't get rid of the old
monitor!!
Cheers'n Beers.. [_])
Don

Thanks Don for your quick response. The new 22" monitor is an IBM
ThinkVision C220P which I thought was digital but I just checked and
see that it is DVI-A so I guess this all goes out the window. Rats!

It is replacing my old IIlamya (sp?) 19".

JC


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:42:44 -0600, "Don Parker"
> wrote:

>Joe C wrote:
>> I have a new monitor coming for my system and before I sell the old
>> one I would like to hook up both to my PC and run FS9. The video card,
>> ATI Radon 9800, supports 2 monitors. Any suggestions on how to do this
>> since I never used two before. I assume I just drag and drop to the
>> other monitor? What do most people put on the second monitor? I assume
>> the throtle panel, the radio stack, etc? How do you get the scenery to
>> span two monitors? Any info would be more that what I know now.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>Unless your new monitor is digital, you'll still need a digital/analog
>converter for the cards digital output (1 digital, 1 analog).
>Go to display properties, enable the second monitor at what ever parameters
>you want, then in windows mode (not full screen, although there is a little
>dance you can do to move things there as well) undock the windowed piece you
>want to move, drag & drop. I usually plant the GPS there, then it depends
>on the airplane is use whether I display the radio stack, throttles, etc..
>there as well. Put an extra outside view and you're asking for a big fps
>hit.......
>It's also very handy for other uses, like two web sites open for comparison
>shopping, etc...... Get used to it and you won't get rid of the old
>monitor!!
>Cheers'n Beers.. [_])
> Don
>
>

Joe DVI-a = Digital video interface A
It be digital. you will need the adapter.
all the best
Spacedman

Joe C wrote:
> Thanks Don for your quick response. The new 22" monitor is an IBM
> ThinkVision C220P which I thought was digital but I just checked and
> see that it is DVI-A so I guess this all goes out the window. Rats!
>
> It is replacing my old IIlamya (sp?) 19".
>
> JC
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:42:44 -0600, "Don Parker"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Joe C wrote:
>>
>>>I have a new monitor coming for my system and before I sell the old
>>>one I would like to hook up both to my PC and run FS9. The video card,
>>>ATI Radon 9800, supports 2 monitors. Any suggestions on how to do this
>>>since I never used two before. I assume I just drag and drop to the
>>>other monitor? What do most people put on the second monitor? I assume
>>>the throtle panel, the radio stack, etc? How do you get the scenery to
>>>span two monitors? Any info would be more that what I know now.
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Unless your new monitor is digital, you'll still need a digital/analog
>>converter for the cards digital output (1 digital, 1 analog).
>>Go to display properties, enable the second monitor at what ever parameters
>>you want, then in windows mode (not full screen, although there is a little
>>dance you can do to move things there as well) undock the windowed piece you
>>want to move, drag & drop. I usually plant the GPS there, then it depends
>>on the airplane is use whether I display the radio stack, throttles, etc..
>>there as well. Put an extra outside view and you're asking for a big fps
>>hit.......
>>It's also very handy for other uses, like two web sites open for comparison
>>shopping, etc...... Get used to it and you won't get rid of the old
>>monitor!!
>>Cheers'n Beers.. [_])
>> Don
>>
>>
>
>

You can buy video connector adapters for
anything. Like the man said, a second monitor is
a great repository for gps, radios, FSNav,
TeamSpeak, etc.

I'd like to know what "dance" I could do to get
them there in full screen mode.

AL

AL Mills wrote:
> I'd like to know what "dance" I could do to get
> them there in full screen mode.
>
Sounds wierd, but it's worked for me every since I saw it posted many months
back. I've heard others say it didn't for them so just have to try it.

When in full screen, bring up something like the GPS. Don't have to undock,
just act like you're dragging it over to the second monitor and it'll run
off the main monitor, but not show on the second. I usually stop about the
time it's almost off the main. Then put the mouse over on the second
monitor and left click. The main monitor now switches to desktop with FS
minimized in the control bar. Click the icon for the minimized FS and it'll
come back up in full screen mode and the GPS will appear on the second
monitor, off to one side on mine (almost the same position that was left
showing on the main), and has to be centered, resized if you want, etc..
You're off and running without the %$#^&@# lockups I'd get many times when
doing this in windowed mode, and ALT SHIFT to go back to full screen........
But, as I said, some have said it didn't work for them...........

System here 3G-P4, 1G ram, XP home, ATI 128M 9800 Pro.......

Joe C wrote:
> Thanks Don for your quick response. The new 22" monitor is an IBM
> ThinkVision C220P which I thought was digital but I just checked and
> see that it is DVI-A so I guess this all goes out the window. Rats!
>
A digital/ana converter is dirt cheap, just a little guy that goes in
between the plug & socket. I only paid $9 extra to Dell when I got my XPS
system almost two years ago, so I could use my Sony 19" and old Mag 15" (put
it on the digital out w/adapter) CRT's.... Your new IBM 22" and a 19"
secondary would be dy-no-mite!! Do it!! You won't look back...............

How can you people manage with only TWO monitors?

Mah Deah Ah couldn't flah with less than three...


Quilljar

Quilljar wrote:

See what I mean?

Quilljar Matrox
http://client.webshots.com/album/194691959rhDQFi

Quilljar wrote:
> See what I mean?
>

Yep- a great slide show!!
I'll wear out what I have now, and by then maybe someone will have a 15" X
45" concave LCD...
But then how would you display the panel correctly? Hmmmmmmmmmm

Hello Don. I found a sub-D/DVI adaptor on Ebay for $1.95. From the
picture it looks like what I want. Its DVI connector plugs into the
DVI slot of the ATI Radeon card and the female end accepts the sub-D
connector from the cable coming from the monitor. I don't understand
how that would work, however, since the monitor accepts ANALOG and the
DVI output of the ATI card I thought was digital. I must be missing
something.

BTW, the monitor came yesterday and boy did it come in a BIG box. It
was delievered by 2 UPS guys!

When I took it out of the box, it didn't look too good. The monitor
glass had all kinds of condensation on it after being brought into the
house. The outside temp was about 10 degress yesterday. After warming
up the display and deguassing it, it looked much better.

Joe C.


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:36:33 -0600, "Don Parker"
> wrote:

>Joe C wrote:
>> Thanks Don for your quick response. The new 22" monitor is an IBM
>> ThinkVision C220P which I thought was digital but I just checked and
>> see that it is DVI-A so I guess this all goes out the window. Rats!
>>
>A digital/ana converter is dirt cheap, just a little guy that goes in
>between the plug & socket. I only paid $9 extra to Dell when I got my XPS
>system almost two years ago, so I could use my Sony 19" and old Mag 15" (put
>it on the digital out w/adapter) CRT's.... Your new IBM 22" and a 19"
>secondary would be dy-no-mite!! Do it!! You won't look back...............
>
>

Joe C wrote:
> connector from the cable coming from the monitor. I don't understand
> how that would work, however, since the monitor accepts ANALOG and the
> DVI output of the ATI card I thought was digital. I must be missing
> something.

You got it right! The adapter not only matches the plugs, but it converts
the digital to analog for your monitor - there is some degradation to the
signal, but for most applications you'll never notice....
>
> BTW, the monitor came yesterday and boy did it come in a BIG box. It
> was delievered by 2 UPS guys!
>
> When I took it out of the box, it didn't look too good. The monitor
> glass had all kinds of condensation on it after being brought into the
> house. The outside temp was about 10 degress yesterday. After warming
> up the display and deguassing it, it looked much better.

Just for future reference, let the monitor warm up to room temp BEFORE
turning on. The condensation can cause some fireworks in the high voltage
section (among others if a drop or two gets in between the wrong pins of an
IC) - and your 22" crt probably has in the neighborhood of 30,000 volts just
inching to burn it's own path to ground!!

"Don Parker" > wrote in message
...
> Joe C wrote:
>> connector from the cable coming from the monitor. I don't understand
>> how that would work, however, since the monitor accepts ANALOG and the
>> DVI output of the ATI card I thought was digital. I must be missing
>> something.
>
> You got it right! The adapter not only matches the plugs, but it converts
> the digital to analog for your monitor - there is some degradation to the
> signal, but for most applications you'll never notice....

No, you both have it wrong.

When a video card allows a DVI output to be adapted to a regular VGA/analog
output, it's simply matching form factors. The video card itself will emit
analog signals out the DVI port. All the adapter does is connect the
appropriate output wires on the DVI pot to the appropriate output wires on a
VGA-compatible output.

The signal is no more degraded than it would otherwise be using regular
analog output to the monitor.

There are genuine DVI-to-analog converters, but there's no way you're going
to find one for $1.95 (nor is it likely that you need one).

> Just for future reference, let the monitor warm up to room temp BEFORE
> turning on. The condensation can cause some fireworks in the high voltage
> section (among others if a drop or two gets in between the wrong pins of
> an IC) - and your 22" crt probably has in the neighborhood of 30,000 volts
> just inching to burn it's own path to ground!!

Since condensed water vapor is unlikely to contain any electrolytes, or much
in the way of any impurities at all for that matter, it's likely to be as
good an insulator as the air around the monitor.

Maybe if you live right next to an ocean or something, there might be enough
ambient salt to allow the water to conduct. But otherwise, while I think
it's always a good idea to let stuff come to ambient temperature and to
allow any condensation to evaporate, I wouldn't worry too much about getting
any short-circuits from condensation.

Pete